LOTRO Reporter Episode 198 – Lag Spike
Chris, Cari, and Layanor talk about server updates, fourms, and LOTRO lag.
What We Did in Game
33% in the moors
Have been running more end game raids.
Finally did a complete run of Ost Dunhoth.
Barad Guldur. Tried to kill the first boss. Things went bad.
Started compiling all the Did You Knows and posting them onto my blog. http://layanor.wordpress.com
Leveling up Ali on Brandywine almost to level 75
I have headed into Rohan and bashed small children
I saw the hobbits go to Isengard live.
Hytbold, Hytbold, Hytbold
Small Updates 8-20-2013 Forum Updates
The auto-logout has been increased to 6 hours (instead of 45 minutes).
The lottery now makes it very clear which characters you have entered into each lottery.
The site was not properly emailing things like subscribed thread notices and private message notices. These should be fixed (there is a huge backlog to catch up first).
The dev tracker should now show posts from more forums.
Sapience Talks about Lag and Forums
Post started out as a usual Turbine you screwed up post. He was angry at Turbine for taking out leaderboards, how “most” players used them, and the lag is still there after the change. Then it got interesting.
Most people didn’t use the leaderboards. The thing people used the most were the Lotteries (which is why I was able to make a case to save them). No other my.lotro.com resource was used nearly as much (we’re talking orders of magnitude). Forums were next, Lorebook a very distant third, then character pages (a very, very distant 4th behind the lorebook). Leaderboards were only slightly more used than Blogs.
With the monitoring code we put into the game with Update 11.1 and 11.2 we know what the status of the lag is for the vast majority of players (your client tell us now) and it has dropped somewhat since 11.1. Though there are a few things we know the cause of now (thanks to the reporting code) and are working on a fix.
Considering the use of the forums has increased nearly 30% since we changed everything and forum performance has increased dramatically (I haven’t seen anyone complain they were laggy), I’d say that’s the exact opposite of what you’re suggesting.
Ping times, unless you have truly insane pings (300+) have nothing to do with it it turns out (yes we were just as surprised as you are). If your pings went from say 90 to 190, then you (regardless of what you may think) aren’t having any meaningfully negative impact on your game play simply because of how the game functions (yes even in the moors and in raids). You don’t have to believe it, but that’s the blunt truth.
Client side issue are the primary cause (we’re adding more data collection in a future update along with some fixes from what we’ve already learned), but don’t take that as were ‘blaming’ players. It’s in the client. We’re trying to figure out where. Thus the continued focus adding measurement tools.
We do suspect that some of what players are reporting as lag is hardware based. That’s why we’re reviewing our minimum and recommended specs to see whether or not they are realistic considering the changes in demands on the client that started going into the game as early as Moria and they were compounded with DX10 and DX11 support and with Rohan and Mounted combat. There is some concern that the existing min spec really isn’t sufficient to run the game at a level that’s enjoyable and that some of the reports of ‘lag’ are really issues of poor performance due to hardware not being up to the task.
Yes. So here’s a funny story. Lotteries were never meant to have ‘normal’ schedules. That was originally a load testing method so the network guys could figure out what kinds of load to expect. It just never went away.
Any skinning revisions are going to be a long time coming, if at all.
Layanor’s Did You Know?
Katie O sent this in on my twitter.
“How about one for Hunters and Wardens – traveling via skill menu instead of filling up your taskbar?”
This does become a problem at end level. What she suggest is to take them all off your skill bar, or leave some on. And just use the skill panel instead. This is on your K key.
That is a good way and it frees up your skill bars. However my solution was to put them on the third set of skill bars. You can click the arrow and switch thru them.
I have 29 ports. So the skill menu would take me awhile to find anything. This is much more useful.
The CariMac asked: Should we be scared? Dwarves giving advice? Hopefully it’s on hitting stuff and not on fashion.
LOTRO Players Reviews Wildermore:
Overall Rating B+
Is Warner Brothers Working on another Game?
Songburrow Strollers 5th Anniversary Concert
Start Date: Sunday 8 September 19:00 PM
End Date: Sunday 8 September 22:00 PM
Laurlin: Gathering at Brockenborings
Bards Day Concert Sept 2
Date: Monday September 2nd
Time: 7:30PM UK (2:30PM servertime)
Place: Ivy Bush Inn, Hobbiton, Laurelin server
From: Flandrin & Jerryman on the Vilya Server
Hello Chris, Cari and Layanor,
Love the show. I listen with my son every week, usually on Saturdays when we’re driving to-from his activities. (And thank you for keeping it family friendly.)
We both have lifetime accounts but play at a very casual pace. We have recently gotten into the late-40’s and 50’s content (Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, and Moria) and are enjoying hunting shard-droppers.
In Misty Mountains the blizzards are clear indicators when to look for a wandering shard dropper.
In Forochel we have noticed the fog seems to indicate that a shard-dropper is near.
But in Angmar? In Moria?
Do the other zones have shard-dropper indicators? My son thinks the sky changes in Angmar indicates that a shard-dropper is near… but we have not been unable to confirm that.
LOTRO Meetup at AFK
AFK Tavern, Everett WA, Friday, 7:00pm. Bar area. Wear LOTRO gear if you can, if not no worries.
IMPORTANT NOTES: under 21, no access to the bar.
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